Help with Jamaica link

PS, Nicke.....on the photo of the marriage certificate, it says both of them lived at a place called "Wedgepole" in Westmoreland...that must be the name of a house.

 

Oops here too...meant to say Fanny was probably really Frances...got a few in my UK families!!

 

On the Jamaican Family Search site, under Immigration to Jamaica 1840-1841 there is a family of Irvings arriving on the William Pirie from Stranraer, Scotland
William 25
Eliza 25
William 6
Christopher 4
They arrived at Bluefield's Westmorland January 23 1841.
Immigration list number 1

 

That was a surprise!!! Ron's dad built his retirement home in Bluefields in the 60's. Small village as I recall....not a port today.... interesting! A mix of folks....from fishermen to a millionaire or two. Ron's dad being in the middle for sure, lol.

 

In the 1878 Directory of Jamaica there is a William Irving, Parish of Westmoreland, Kings. He is 'of White House Pen and storekeeper'. Now I know that there are 100's if Irving's but it's a start.

 

I signed up and tried to search but I am hitting all sorts of walls. None if the dates seems to be adding up for me. But I noticed that both you and Archie's Mum have the search on lock down. You're getting far better results than me. I am grateful for the assistance.

 

Frances... I was thinking that could be her actual name since Fanny sounded like it could be a pat name.

 

Growing up I always remembered my Mom referring to Seaford town few times well. Yes, my Great- Grandmother was white. My Great Grandfather was black and Awark Indian. Grandfather was Black. My Mom always talked about her aunts and cousins, but she never knew her grandmother.

 

Yes, yes. That my Grandparents. My mom lived in Wedgepole, Westmoreland. My siblings and I visited her old school when we were there last year.

 

OK Nicke, we're on a roll. Anything more you can tell us.
Was Reuben's father Daniel? And was he born Mont Pelier? Mother Elizabeth or Rebecca?
There seem to be Irvings at Savanna la Mar, Bethel and surrounds.

 

I think we will have to give you an h

That's OK, Nicke!! We forget how long it took us to learn all the ins and outs of researching genealogy.......probably since before you were born!!

We can help you out, but I may try sending you a link to the right page on the LDS site by private email on this Forum. I will let you know when I do. You can then poke around and see the marriage certificate and other information. Each website we search has their own "persnickety" ways, it seems.

 

OK Nicke......sent you a private message via the Forum giving you the link to the Mormon Family search page with Consie's marriage on it........along with instructions on what to do when you get there. I tested it and it seems to be going to the right place, but if you have questions, just ask.

Night....bedtime here in Canada.....

 

Good night....and thank you.

 

Hi Nicke.
A fruitful search, I think. I accidently found your Consie. She was registered under the name of Consie Etheline Stafford 17 August 1921, mother Frances Stafford, Bethel Town, but along with Consie we have....
Norman George Stafford 9 August 1912
Kathleen Rebecca 11 Oct 1919
Oswald Percival 7 June 1917
Susan Isabella 26 Nov 1923
Violet Lillian 20 March 1927
Jonathon Emanuel 30 Sept 1928
Lovel Louise 17 Nov 1930
Gwendolyn Maud 11 Oct 1925
All have mother Frances Stafford and all at Bethel Town
The only Fred was Frederick Stafford 13 May 1911 mother Georgiana Stafford Bethel Town.
Now I know you have Fred as her brother but perhaps if this is him then he may have been a cousin but brought up with Frances.
No father listed on any of the above.

 

Death of a Mabel Stafford 2 March 1934 father John Nation mother Frances Stafford
Liilian death 1927 father John Nation mother Frances Stafford.
Whether all this means that Frances and John weren't married, I have no idea.

 

Probably not, but it was never a big deal in Jamaica if they weren't. If you go back further to the 1800's and early 1900's, blacks and whites could NOT marry. In fact, children of these unions could not inherit from the biological father and they eventually passed a law called "White by Law" to get around this and other things.
Sorry..internet crashed when I was looking for that Law on the Jamaicanwebsite....so up for a bit and replying.

 

Norman George Stafford born August 1912 died in the October 1912

 

The first Stafford I can find in Jamaica is Pricilla Stafford born in 1740 at St Dorothy to Peter Stafford and Betty. Not at all sure that they are of the same line as your Staffords.

 

St. Dorothy?? Never heard of that parish. But who know what went on in the 1700's. They changed some and rearranged others. Santiago (spanish) became the English translation.....St. James.

Heading to bed.....mind has gone, lol.

 

St Dorothy, Vere and the old Clarendon merged to form the new parish of Clarendon, May Pen the capital. County Middlesex.