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Mary's parents - help, please

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  1. The Artful Dodger

    The Artful Dodger Well-Known Member

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    Mary Edwards was baptised 22 September 1805 in Lelant. Her parents were Christopher and Mary. 2 siblings were baptised later - Frances [11 October 1807] and Hannibal [27 August 1809] - both in Lelant.

    Mary Edwards married John Richards 1 July 1837. Mary indicated her father was Christopher, still living and a Miner. As of the 1841 census census, they had no children, were living in Polpear, Lelant .

    By the time of the 1851 census, Mary and John Richards had 2 children - Frances Edwards Richards [bapt. 14 August 1842] and Christiana Edwards White Richards [bapt. 27 April 1845] Both were in Lelant.

    Going back to her parents - Christopher and Mary - I have the both in 1841 census. They are living in Lelant, the residence is in Carne and Christopher was an Inn Keeper. He died and was buried 5 February 1848. After his death, his widow moved in with Mary and John Richards. She is there with their family in the 1851 census, residence was Nance, Uny Lelant. She died and was buried 23 May 1851.

    That's the background - now who were Mary's parents?

    Colin
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    There are several more children for Christopher and Mary.

    Christopher Edwards christened 07 Nov 1798 son of Christopher and Mary in Uny-Lelant,

    and a prior Hannibal

    Hannibal Edwards christening: 31 January 1802, Uny-Lelant, son of Christopher and Mary
    Hannibal Edwards burial: 7 November 1802, Uny-Lelant, son of Christopher and Mary

    Could this be Christopher and Mary's marriage ?

    Groom Christopher EDWARDS, Parish Uny Lellant
    Bride Mary MARTINS, Spinster, Parish Gulval
    Marriage Date 09 Mar 1793, ChurchSt Wolvela (St Gulval), Gulval, Cornwall
    Register Number 253
    Witness Peter CARBIS
    Witness Mary _OREY
    Banns read: John Nicholls Stevens Curate

    If so then we know her name is Mary Martin.
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    There is also a baptism for a Christian EDWARDS

    Christian EDWARDS, Female
    Baptism 08 Jun 1800, Church St Uny, Lelant, Cornwall
    Father Christopher EDWARDS
    Mother Mary

    Mary Died in 1851 aged 78, so that would put her birth around 1773.

    If and only if the marriage I found above is the correct one and Mary is a MARTIN and she was married in her birth district of Gulval, then could this be her baptisum?

    12-Apr 1772, Parish Or Reg DistrictGulval
    Name Mary MARTIN
    FatherJohn MARTIN

    There is another baptism in Gulval around the same time for a Christian MARTIN

    Christian MARTIN, Male
    27-Sep 1774, Parish Or Reg DistrictGulval
    Father John MARTIN
    Mother Mary MARTIN
    Residence Trezelah

    There we go with the Christian name again.

    There is a marriage of a John MARTIN to a Mary in Gulval in 1762.

    Marriage 24-Jul 1762, Gulval, After Banns
    Groom John MARTIN (made his mark)
    Residence Gulval
    Rank Profession Labourer/Tinner
    Bride Mary EDDY, Spinster (made her mark)
    Residence Gulval
    Witness Richard EDDY
    Witness Jn. GREEN Jnr.
    With consent of parents

    So could Marys parents be John MARTIN and Mary EDDY ?
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    Thank you, Chimp, for the information above and, as well, the manner that you presented it - this I am very appreciative of.

    Colin
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    Why is that part BOLDED??? Have others now answered you in the manner you appreciate??

    Btw, are any of these people related to you?? Or are you just trying to test us, :p
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    No Heather - my point of making it bold was personal.
    If you need more detail - contact. me.

    Yes these folks are related to me - I wouldn't waste time by testing you and others.
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    Just teasing you and my words also got a bit jumbled so it came off wrong. This iPhone drives me nuts at times.
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    All Children born to Christopher and Mary Edwards of Uny-Lelant, Cornwall
    All are entered under the same batch numbers: Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03853-8, GS Film number1595781. Also Deaths of children with parents Christopher and Mary Edwards of Uny-Lelant, Cornwall.

    Christopher Edwards, Male
    Christening Date 04 Nov 1798
    Burial Date 20 Nov 1802

    Hannibal Edwards, Male
    Christening Date 31 Jan 1802
    Burial Date 07 Nov 1802

    William Edwards, Male
    Christening Date 03 Oct 1803
    Burial Date 11 Sep 1803

    Strange, William seems to have been buried before he was born !?!

    Mary Edwards, Female
    Christening Date 22 Sep 1805

    Frances Edwards, Female
    Christening Date 11 Oct 1807

    Hannibal Edwards, Male
    Christening Date 27 Aug 1809

    Christopher Edwards, Male
    Christening Date 13 Jun 1813
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    The scan of the parish register on FamilySearch isn't very clear: I can't make out the month of William's burial. It comes between entries for July and November:
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    familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13193-70308-15?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-JKN:618258350

    There are examples on the same page of how the clerk writes the names of the other months, but I would not want to put money on what it says for William's.

    The baptism, on image 37 of the same set, is definitely in October 1803, but I read it as 9th not 3rd.
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    Thank you all.

    I knew [or suspected] that these would be on FS but my brain just somehow cannot come to terms with that site - just like TNA.

    The references are appreciated.
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    Both of these are complex sites which take a long time to master. The only way to learn is practice, practice and more practice.

    Now that you know these index entries and the original parish registers are on FamilySearch, why not try to find them yourself?

    P.S. I do not believe the saying 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks.' I prefer 'Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.'
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    Believe the saying - "the more I try, the less I learn". I know the fault lies with me - but I can't handle it. 10 days of practice and I'm still stumped, so if members here are still willing to assist me, I'll post my queries about baptisms, marriages and burials.

    There may be a few but they will be far between.

    Colin
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    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    Members here have always been willing to assist you :)
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    I know and I appreciate it. Given post #11 and my inability to figure out Family Search, I just wanted to ensure that my queries on this particular line of enquiry, would not frustrate others.

    That's all
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    As I said a few days ago Colin, you can always help someone else. That would give you practice :D
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    Thank you.
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    Might be easier just to bookmark the links in family search once you find the correct page to search.
    The Cornish images are under records. Go down to British Isles click. Comes up with a list.scroll down to the Cornwall Browse images. Page saying Cornwall and Devon. Click Cornwall and bookmark.
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