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Post master records.

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  1. Chimp

    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I have been contacted by a lady saying that her grandfather was a postmaster in my town. As he is now dead I only have what she can tell me and she has also supplied a picture.

    Trouble is he was postmaster in the 30's 40's.

    I thought that will be my next project. Post masters of Knighton. I have trawled the censuses and have come up with this.

    20th Jan 1832 William Weyman was appointed Postmaster of Knighton on 20th January 1832 married Hannah whiston 22/7/1828

    William Weyman 1835

    William Weyman 1840

    Name: William Weyman, Age: 41
    Date of Trial: 29 Mar 1842
    Location of Trial: Radnorshire, Wales
    Charge: Assault
    Sentence: Imprisonment 10 months

    Charles langford baptised 19 Sep 1824, Knighton, Radnorshire son of Michael and Mary Langford. Michael was an attorney's bailiff

    Charles Langford married Martha Fildas on 6th June 1853 in Kingsland


    1861 - Charles Langford - 36 - postmaster

    1871 - Charles Langford - 47- postmaster

    1881 - Charles Langford - 57 - postmaster

    1887 - Charles Langford - - postmaster

    1891 - Charles Langford - 67 - postmaster


    U25 Coffin stone within railings Sandstone
    CHARLES LANGFORD many years Postmaster of this Town
    Died August 3rd 1897 aged 73 years 6 August 1897
    Also his wife MARTHA died May 14th 1910 aged 83 years. 19 May 1910

    Dec 1897 - Eleanor A Dawson


    1901 - Eleanor a Dawson - 33

    Marriages Dec 1909
    DAWSON Eleanor Annie Romford 4a 829
    PALFREY John Romford 4a 829

    Eleanor Annie Palfrey 1911 postmistress
    Thomas Loyyd - age 34 - Sorting Clerk & Telegraphist Post Office
    Edward Parker - 47 - Post Office Postman
    William James Parker - 15 - Messenger Boy Post Office

    Cecil Ernest Jones
    Sep 1902 = learner
    Aug 1905 -
    1911 Post Office Sorting Clerk & Telegraphist
    Nov 1922 certified wireless operator
    July 1924 Sorter

    Cecil Ernest Jones is the gent I have info on.

    Does anyone know if there are any online records?
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    It might take a bit of a rummage, but the Bristish Postal History website used to have staff records online. Not sure if they still do, though...
    http://www.
    postalheritage.org.uk/page/history

    Edited to add: scroll down to the bottom of the page and there is a section on family history. :)
     
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    Ancestry has a collection called British Postal Service Appointment Books 1735 to 1969. Typing in the name Weyman randomly gets loads of hits :D
     
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    Thank you both very much. At least now I have a starting point. :)
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I thought I might find something in the papers, but there seems to be very little mention of Postmasters in Knighton. I did find the following, which, at least, mentions three of them in one go.....
    Brecon and Radnor Express 13th July 1916
    Knighton—Mr Thomas Lloyd, who has been, a clerk in the Post Office here for about 21 years, was last week appointed salaried sub-postmaster at Newnham, Gloucester. Mr Lloyd came to this office from Shrewsbury during the last illness of the late Mr CharlesLangford (postmaster), served as clerk during the years in which Mrs Palfrey held the office of post-misstress (and owing to her regretted illness) he discharged the duties of postmaster for the greater part of the past two years. He has been a, faithful member of the church choir and ever ready to unite with every other denomination in organising concerts for charitable purposes. Until the outbreak of war, when the local eisteddfodau was temporarily discontinued, he discharged the duties of, secretary to the Choral Society in a most satisfactory manner. Mr Lloyd has also been connected with the football, hockey and golf clubs of the town, and a very large circle of friends in this district will wish him every success in his new sphere.

    Ann:)
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Thank you very much indeed Ann, I trawled the papers and found nothing. This is excellent.

    Thank you again.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I was told that Cecil Ernest Jones was postmaster in the 30's 40's but have found this

    Brecon & Radnor Express - 16th December 1915
    "It had for some time been known that Knighton Head Office would eventually be reduced to the rank of a salaried sub-office, not (as some supposed) on account of any decrease in the business, but owing to the operation of the recommendations of the Holt Committee (1913), who were appointed by the House of Commons to inquire into and report on the wages and other conditions of employment in the Post Office. The change of status was made on the 1st of October, and since that date, Knighton, with its sub-offices, has been attached to Llandrindod Wells, under Mr Bunnage, the head postmaster."

    So he couldn't have been postmaster as that position no longer existed.
     
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    Ah but maybe the status had been changed back by the 1930s.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Then again, even if he ran a sub- office he was in effect the local postmaster for want of a better title, no? Could be it was franchised by then & he ran his own business as happens here in Australia.
    Save - The Gazette
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/issue/11463/page/.../data.pdf
    Post Office: Postmen, London—Harry William. Coe, Arthur ... Learners—Prank Hulme (Stockport), Cecil. Ernest Jones (Knighton), Howard Luxon. (Wellington

    1190 THE
    EDINBUKGH (sic) GAZETTE
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    NOVEMBER 21.1902
    .MaleLearners
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    Temporary AssistantPostman,London

    John Andrew Piggott
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    Learners—Prank Hulme
    (Stockport)
    ,Cecil Ernest Jones (Knighton)
     
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    Thank you very much indeed Wendy. All these little bits go to prove that he was involved with the post office. Looks like he started at the bottom and worked his way up.

    Thank you again.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Only way to go Chimp.
    Now if I can only find my pasta recipe.....
     
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