Who is Mary ?

Joanne

Joanne

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My Richard Hetherington b1737 ? married a Mary ??. They had 7 children one of whom is buried in Tortola. Mary died in 1790 and is buried in Thornton in Lonsdale, Lancashire.
I am unable to find any record of Richard and Mary marrying although other branches have Richard marrying a Mary Pickering,dates which do NOT fit in. One of their daughters has the name Ann Norton Hetherington so i searched with the name Norton,again nothing.
Is anyone able to assist please
Thanks Joanne
 
I see that you say other trees show a marriage to Mary Pickering. That marriage took place in Lanercost, Cumberland in 1801. Impossible when Mary had died 11 years earlier.

Now there is another marriage for a Richard Hetherington to a Mary in Cumberland. This one is a bit earlier :-

familysearch

Groom: Richard Hetherington
Bride: Mary Musgrave
Marriage: 05 Oct 1775, Stapleton, Cumberland, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04622-5, GS Film number: 1472283

But how do you prove this is your Richard?
 
Is this the Richard Hetherington 1737-1821 whose son, Richard born 1785, was the Administrator of the British Virgin Islands?
There is a Wikipedia article that I can't follow without a bit more concentration:( However the elder is supposed to have married Mary Pickering, 1743-1788 and the younger, Mary Bell.
Some descendants buried in Prahan, Victoria?
 
Chimp said:
Bride: Mary Musgrave
Marriage: 05 Oct 1775, Stapleton, Cumberland, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04622-5, GS Film number: 1472283

But how do you prove this is your Richard?
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I have found this one previously and I know babies sometimes arrived before marriage,could this still apply to someone of the upper classes? Richard Hetherington,Esq was a plantation owner,slave owner and ? a Colonel
 
From bits and bobs I have picked up here and there it appears that he married Mary Pickering c1760 and at age 75 he married Margaret Barnfather in 1813 in Cumbria. He died age 83.
The younger, his son, Captain Richard Hetherington married Mary Bell at Plymouth 6 July 1812
 
Archie's Mum,
close but not quite accurate. Richard Hetherington senior was the President of the council,his son Richard was in the Royal Navy and married to Mary Bell and it was their daughters who came to Australia.
The trees on ancestry have Mary Pickering listed but I cannot find any proof corresponding with the surname and all the other tree owners say is I got it from other trees bar one who had contact with original "finder" and I believe she may have passed on
 
Not very considerate of her, passing on just when you need answers!
Also not very considerate these fathers and sons with same name and almost same occupations!
I'm sure someone here will turn something up.
There is quite a bit of info out there on them all I must say :)
 
This is where it gets interesting,recently found a newspaper article re Richard's death it reads in part at Tortola on the 8th Aug 1821. Also Every inhabitant of the island attended the Internment. So I now have to find out if he too is buried on Tortola or in the grave with his first wife in Lancs
 
Joanne said:
I have found this one previously and I know babies sometimes arrived before marriage,could this still apply to someone of the upper classes? Richard Hetherington,Esq was a plantation owner,slave owner and ? a Colonel
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Doesn't make him any less likely to 'father offspring' out of season Love. In some cases perhaps more likely.

what made you think dates were 'off' Joanne
 
Not all up to date though,I' have same info with slight differences where I have double checked before putting on my tree or adding info

edit oops helps to press send button
 
Mary Pickering I found married a Richard H after death of mary mother of his children and childrens births start at 1767/69
 
Joanne said:
One of their daughters has the name Ann Norton Hetherington so i searched with the name Norton,again nothing.
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Have you found a baptism as Ann Norton Hetherington? The reason I asked is that one of his daughters, who must have died before he did, had married a Mr Norton, so I wondered if that might have been Ann.*

Life Notes: Reflections of a British Virgin Islander by Joseph Reynold O'Neal, on Google Books, has some notes on Richard Hetherington's will, which he says was 'like a book; it was so long, there were days and days of reading and typing'. (I know that feeling!) He mentions that it explained why a place called 'Johnson's Ghut' had previously been called 'Norton's Ghut':

Hetherington first gave that to a daughter who had married and become Mrs. Norton. When she died, Hetherington gave the property to another daughter, this one married a Johnson, hence Johnson's Ghut . . .
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*though you'd think she would be more likely to be referred to as Ann Hetherington Norton, not Ann Norton Hetherington, if that were the case.
 
Joanne said:
So I now have to find out if he too is buried on Tortola or in the grave with his first wife in Lancs
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I'm not swearing to this but I would think he was buried on the island. In 1821 there would have been no way to keep the body cool enough to stop decomposition for the long journey home.
 
Huncamunca said:
*though you'd think she would be more likely to be referred to as Ann Hetherington Norton, not Ann Norton Hetherington, if that were the case.
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Perhaps after the death or separation from Mr Norton she reclaimed in part her birth surname?
The marriage papers for Ann & Richard Hodgson would be interesting.

admitting to it are you?
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Odd things happen when sleepy, but yes. xx
'night now.
 
Chimp said:
Now there is another marriage for a Richard Hetherington to a Mary in Cumberland. This one is a bit earlier :-

familysearch

Groom: Richard Hetherington
Bride: Mary Musgrave
Marriage: 05 Oct 1775, Stapleton, Cumberland, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04622-5, GS Film number: 1472283
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There is a corresponding marriage licence bond, transcribed here:
http://
archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CUMBERLAND/2001-05/0989265363

which says they were both of Crakethorp in the parish of Stapleton; he was a yeoman. Marriage to be at Stapleton.

Still looking to see if I can find any other references to them in Stapleton . . .
 
Ma-dotcom said:
Ann Norton Hetherington married: Richard Hodgson
June 22, 1790 (Age 21)
Burton In Lonsdale, Lancashire, England
Married name
Ann Norton Hodgson
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Oh then the person mentioned in the will could be a different daughter . . . unless the transcriber missed the Hodgson bit. The actual will would no doubt clarify things, if you could get hold of a copy.
 
No I have a copy of the book Life notes. Apparently there was a daughter Ann born 1765 who was buried 1767 on Tortola in the plantation owners graveyard at yes, Johnson's Ghut. That I got from research and have'nt heard from the archealogist again yet. She is only " on island" every 6 months.
 
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