What does this say?

annabel

annabel

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I have 2 questions on this

Can anybody explain what this says, and what does it mean?
Persons baptised 1792. Jan 1st Communicants 11. Coll???

Also what does this say?
James, son of John and Sarah Kittle. Late ??? spinster
 
Not sure what Communicants 11 & Collected 5 means unless Communicants referred to regular worshippers and Collected to non-regular worshippers, but I am sure someone will know.

James KITTLE son of John & Sarah KITTLE, late HASEL spinster, which presumably refers to Sarah's maiden name.

Janet
 
I'd imagine Communicants would be taking 'Communion'?

Agree with the Hasel = maiden name bit.
 
1 January 1792 was a Sunday, so as has been suggested, Communicants is likely to be the number taking communion that day. Collected might be the amount of the collection, but it's a bit hard to make out if this is a sum of money or not. Might there be other similar, and clearer, entries later in the year?

Quite why this was noted in the baptism register, I'm not sure - unless they regarded the one book as a register of everything that happened in the church.

Edit: Snap, MM
 
MollyMay said:
Could the other bit be:-
Collected 5d (five old pence) - if so not much from 11 communicants:D
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Looking at other entries around this date in Brooke Parish (Norfolk) it is definitely 'collection' and the amount would be 5d. There are several entries in this register showing the number of communicants and the amount collected and they are pretty constant although some seem to be in shillings and pence. It seems to be a small congregation for a relatively large village. Perhaps no one liked the vicar very much! In any case 1/2d seems quite a reasonable amount for someone to give out of their pay; it's just the numbers that are small.

Thinking about this further and having trawled through yards of Norfolk registers in my time, I wonder if the 'collection' was in fact for the relief of some disaster in another place, not necessarily in Norfolk. From time to time there used to be local and national collections for disasters of various kinds and I've seen several of these itemised at the beginning and ends of registers (although it usually says what the collection was for)..
 
MollyMay said:
Could the other bit be:-
Collected 5d (five old pence) - if so not much from 11 communicants:D
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Then again,how many had one penny to spare?-having seen baptisms where the folk couldn't pay anything & were listed as poor. Not familiar with communion practises requiring donations, unless usual collection plate.
Leaning toward Flooks idea.
 
Flook said:
Looking at other entries around this date in Brooke Parish (Norfolk) it is definitely 'collection' and the amount would be 5d. There are several entries in this register showing the number of communicants and the amount collected and they are pretty constant although some seem to be in shillings and pence. It seems to be a small congregation for a relatively large village. Perhaps no one liked the vicar very much! In any case 1/2d seems quite a reasonable amount for someone to give out of their pay; it's just the numbers that are small.

Thinking about this further and having trawled through yards of Norfolk registers in my time, I wonder if the 'collection' was in fact for the relief of some disaster in another place, not necessarily in Norfolk. From time to time there used to be local and national collections for disasters of various kinds and I've seen several of these itemised at the beginning and ends of registers (although it usually says what the collection was for)..
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Yes, I was thinking a halfpenny or farthing would be enough to put in a collection for a poor family.
 
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